Tyrone refutes more Zionist lies

The usual gang of Likudnik/Kachnik/Chardalnik RWers seem to have gotten into a whole big tizzy over my last post. They reacted typically, spouting the same old Zionist nonsense and lies. I already put them in their place in the comments, but afterward I realized that my responses were important enough to put up as a post:

Am Kshe Oref: You must be the biggest idiot on the face of the planet or you're actually mocking all the anti-Israel anti-IDF Libel your blog seems to promote.

You're the big idiot, bud, and the only people I'm mocking are the pro-Israel drones like yourself.

AKO: Do you realize the video you linked to about the Jews burning Palestinian children was by PMW - Palestinian Media Watch, which is a watchdog organization that monitors "Pal" media...

Who cares where the video came from? Watch it -- it shows the truth. We embrace truth wherever we find it.

AKO: That the "Palestinians" (a completely artificial, made-up term - my MOTHER is more of a "Palestinian" than any Arab - she is Jew born in "Palestine")...

Hardy-har-har. The fact that you call the term Palestinian "made-up" only proves that you are a murderous genocidal maniac. The Palestinians have been living in Palestine for many thousands of years, and have always called themselves "Palestinians". The Jews, on the other hand, only came a few decades ago, as European colonial invaders. Your mother is a late-coming interloper, who has no right to a single square inch of that land.

AKO: ...even the "moderate" Fatah is not in any way interested in peace, despite what the tell the Western media...

Whoa! Now you're really exposing yourself as an extremist nutjob. Even the most RW conservatives, like President Bush and John McCain, have openly declared that Abu Mazen (the head of Fatah) genuinely wishes for nothing more than peace. Heck, Israel's own Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, and Foreign Minister, Tzippi Livni, have both said many times that Abu Mazen is a man of peace. So why should I believe you over the Israelis themselves, huh?

AKO: By the way, did you not read the caption on the video you posted? It was originally broadcast by FATAH TV, which PMW picked up.

Good point. And that only proves that its trustworthy. If Israel's government trusts Fatah, then why shouldn't I!? (And what would you rather I posted, something from the criminal Zionist government?)

fozzyb1: you make so many assumptions without fact, that I don't get upset by what you write. I am too busy laughing.

I'm glad you're amused. But you're the one who's full of "assumptions". Thanks, but I already know the truth, so I have no need for your "facts".

And I wouldn't laugh so much if I were you. You were the one who tried to defend a document called "IDF Shoot!".

Me: it was a religious zionist IDF officer who charged into Yeshivat Merkaz Harav who murdered the East Jerusalem activist a few weeks back

Jewish Sceptic: That language is far too permissive for the circumstance, Tyrone. A man with an AK-47 shooting civilians isn't an "east jerusalem activist" anymore than the frequent shootings in US schools is part of the curriculum. He was a man who decided to become a murderer and terrorist, therefore any of those tags are appropriate.

Wrong, bud. It's outrageous for you to call him a terrorist: As his family said, he had seen the media reports about the Holocaust that Israel is perpetrating in the Gaza Strip, and that got him very upset. What's more, he was probably held up at Israeli checkpoints on numerous occasions. It was his legitimate right to rise up in self-defense and fight for his freedom and that of his people. That makes him a freedom-fighter, not a terrorist.

JS: As for the man who "charged in" to the yeshiva, thank goodness he did, otherwise more innocent lives would have been lost.

They weren't innocent. They were ideologically in support of the illegal occupation (otherwise they wouldn't have been at that yeshiva), so they were war criminals.

JS: Palestinian terrorist kills Jewish civilians, Palestinian terrorists win, and Palestinian civilians dance in the streets (as they did after the murder of Jewish students a few weeks back).

The Israeli media says that it was good that an IDF officer murdered the activist in Merkaz Harav. So see, Israel also celebrates the murder of Palestinians! There's no difference.

JS: Through good media propaganda, they have conditioned world opinion (or the world has conditioned themselves) to the extent that almost whatever Palestinian terrorists do, the world will condemn israel. How perverse is that?

Firstly, that's a load of crock: The international media, and the whole world, is incredibly biased in favor of Israel, and only paranoid Zionists like yourself fail to see that. For an excellent example of the media's blatant pro-Israel bias, take a look at this post by DovBear about how CBS News supports and defends Israeli soldiers and their war crimes. How can you look at that and deny that they love Israel, huh?

JS: Native American claims to US soil is much more convincing than Palestinian claims to any part of Israel Proper.

It's true that the Americans committed terrible crimes against the Native Americans, but they don't even hold a candle to the crimes committed by Israel against the Palestinians. To pick just one blatant example, in the eternally infamous Jenin Massacre of 2002, Israel totally and completely wiped the Jenin refugee camp out of existence, off the face of the earth for all time, murdering thousands of people. Even the pro-Israel Guardian newspaper admitted that "Israel's actions in Jenin were every bit as repellent as Osama Bin Laden's attack on New York on September 11", and the pro-Israel UN envoy Terje Roed-Larsen observed that this was the worst massacre in all of human history. And to top it off, the Israeli Foreign Minister himself, Shimon Peres, admitted to all this when he called it a "massacre", using that word! In comparison, America's crimes against the Native Americans pale into puny insignificance.

JS: In one of your responses, you speak of Palestinians who still own houses in Israel Proper. What about the houses and properties of Jews in all Arab lands?

That's nothing more than a big urban legend spread by Likudnik/Kachnik/Chardalnik RWers. No Jews lost houses and properties in Arab lands. If they had, then why didn't Israel ever raise such a claim in any international forum, huh? We all know about the Palestinian claims against Israel -- the Arabs have been publicizing it since the Nakba. If the Jews had really been expelled from Arab countries and deprived of their property, then Israel would have made similar claims, and demanded compensation for it? They certainly have had plenty of opportunity to do so if they wanted to! The fact that Israel has never made any such claim proves that the whole thing is just a RW lie, invented to delegitimize the Palestinian cause.

JS: My own family were hounded out of Iraq in the years following WW2, and they chose to leave Iran after the Islamic Revolution for fear they would be killed if they didn't...

Even if your claim were true (and Israel doesn't seem to be backing you up), your family was responsible for what happened to them. They should have stayed in Iran. Israeli propaganda claims that Jews are mistreated in Iran, but that's a lie. The Jews who are there are actually treated very well and with full equality. They have even said so to the media! Unfortunately, the same cannot be said of the suffering Palestinians.